>> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, THE LATEST ON INCREASES IS COVID-19, RSV AND THE FLU AND THE IMPACT OF VOTERS IMPROVING COLLEGE TUITION WITH DREAMERS AND A TEACHING HOSPITAL FOR VETERINARIANS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY ANNOUNCED IT WAS ONCE AGAIN DISTRIBUTING FREE COVID TESTS.

THE ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY IS THAT FOUR MORE COVID TESTS ARE AVAILABLE.

IT INCLUDES PLANS TO OPEN UP MORE VACCINATION SITES ALONG TO INCREASE SUPPLIES WITH MASKS, GLOVES AND HOSPITAL GOWNS AND IT COMES AS A NATION IS SEEING AN INCREASE IN COVID CASES JUST AS FOLKS ARE SET TO GATHER FOR THE HOLIDAYS.

WE WILL UPDATE ARIZONA'S COVID NUMBERS IN JUST A MOMENT.

>>> ECONOMIC NEWS, JOBLESS CLAIMS IN THE U.S.

DROPPED TO THE LOWEST LEVEL SINCE SEPTEMBER AND IT SHOWS 20,000 FEWER CLAIMS WHICH WAS A SURPRISE TO ECONOMISTS.

>> RETAIL SALES DROPPED AS THE SHARPIST DECLINE AND CONSUMERS ARE PULLING BACK ON SPENDING AMID INFLATION CONCERNS.

>>> FINALLY FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED HE IS RELEASING A SET OF DIGITAL TRADING CARDS FEATURING DONALD TRUMP AT $99 A CARD.

HIS SUPPORTERS EXPECTED SOME SORT OF SIGNIFICANT OR POLICY DECLARATION AND THIS WAS IT.

THE CARDS FEATURE TRUMP AS A SUPERHERO WITH LASER VISION AND ONE CARD SHOWS HIM ON MT.

RUSHMORE AND ONE ON A STATUTE OF LIBERTY.

>>> CASES OF COVID-19, RSV AND THE FLU ARE ON THE RISE IN ARIZONA AND WITH MORE PEOPLE GATHERING INDOORS, RELATE OFFICIALS ARE CONCERNED CONCERNED ABOUT A SURGE.

LET'S START WITH COVID SINCE THE ADMINISTRATION IS CONCERNED.

>> THE DAILY NUMBERS ARE NOT THE WAY TO EXAMINE THAT BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING HOME TESTS AND I LOOK AT THE SEVEN-DAY MOVING AFGHANISTAN OFMOVING AVERAGE OF ADMINISTRATIONS AND THE CENSUS OF PEOPLE AND WHILE IT'S 9% TO 10%, HOSPITALS ARE THERE FOR COVID-19 AND IT'S CRESTED.

NOW COULD IT BE A DOUBLE HUMP LIKE A CAMEL, IT'S POSSIBLE AND EPICURVES DROP BACK DOWN AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE REASONNAL INCREASE IN COVID WITH RESPECT TO HOSPITALIZATIONS AND ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT IT'S -- A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT OR URGENT CARE AND PEOPLE WILL BE SHARING THEIR HEADS SAYING WE HAD FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN HOUR WAITS AND THERE'S BIG WAITS AND NOT TRANSLATING INTO A SHORTAGE OF AVAILABILITY OF HOSPITAL BEDS.

>> Ted: YOU SAID 9% COVID HOSPITALIZATIONS.

>> YEAH.

>> Ted: COMPARE TO THAT LAST WINTER AND THE WINTER BEFORE?

>> TWO WINTERS IT WAS 68% IN LATE DECEMBER AND EARLY JANUARY WERE THERE FOR COVID AND THAT WAS ABSORBING THE CAPACITY EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE WHO NEEDED EMERGENCY AND PEN APPENDECTOMIES AND WE'RE NOT LIKE THAT.

>> Ted: DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING THEIR BOOSTERS?

>> IT'S LIKE 12% OF PEOPLE IN ARIZONA HAVE GOTTEN THE BIVALENT BOOSTERS AND IN NURSING HOMES, IT'S 23%, 24%.

>> Ted: WHERE IS IT CRESTED?

PEOPLE ARE GETTING INFECTED AND THE INFECTION IS RUNNING THE COURSE AND FINDING THE SUSCEPTIBLE PEOPLE AND THESE NEW VARIENTS ARE SO CONTAGIOUS THAT THEY RUN THEIR COURSE.

>> THE FIRST OMICRON, SO CONTAGIOUS IT RAN ITS COURSE QUICKLY.

>> Ted: STILL WANT TO HOLD OFF ON THE ER'S AND THE FLU AND WHAT ARE WE SEEING?

>> SAME THING.

WE HAD AN EARLY -- ARE HAVING AN EARLY INFLUENZA SEASON AND THE SEVEN-DAY MOVING AVERAGE OF NEW HOSPITALIZATIONS, THAT'S ON THE DECLINE, AS WELL.

SO THAT MAY HAVE CRESTED, AS WELL, AND COULD BE THAT IT FLATTENS OUT BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS AND PEOPLE GOING TO PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO WHILE THINGS ARE HIGH IN IN TERMS OF HOSPITALIZATION AS WELL AS FLU AND COVID, THE TREND IS GOING DOWN.

>> Ted: FROM WHAT I HEARD, RSV, THAT IS GOING DOWN.

>> WAY OFF THE CHARTS, STILL HIGH.

WITH HIGHER THAN ANY PEAK IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, BUT IT IS DIPPING AND DIPPING FAIRLY FAST.

>> Ted: I KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING.

ARE PEOPLE GETTING RSV AND THINKING THEY HAVE COVID AND GETTING COVID AND THINKING THEY HAVE RSV AND THE FLU IS WAITING FOR A HIGH TEMPERATURE?

>> SO IT COULD BE.

LIKE, AT LEAST PEOPLE HAVE -- A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THE TESTS AND YOU COULD GET NEW TESTS AND YOU RAN OUT OF FROM THE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ORDER FOUR AND PEOPLE COULD TEST AND MOST HAVE STUFF IN THE CABINET AND NO WAY TO TEST FOR RSV UNLESS YOU GO TO AN URGENT CARE AND INFLUENZA IS THAT SPIKEY FEVER WHICH IS DIFFERENT WITH A HIGHER FEVER.

>> Ted: DOUBLE HUMP AND RARELY SEE IT AND BETWEEN COVID, FLU AND RSV, WILL WE SEE SOMETHING BOUNCE BACK UP IN FEBRUARY?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

IN ALL OF THE YEARS I'VE BEEN WORKING IN PUBLIC HEALTH, IF WE HAVE AN EARLY SEASON, EARLY SEASON AND MARCH IS FINE.

MOSTLY, WE SEE, YOU KNOW, A LATE SEASON AND I CAN'T THINK OF A DOUBLE HUMP WHEN IT COMES OF INFLUENZA IN MY CAREER.

H1N1 ASIDE.

>> Ted: I FOR FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE HEARING REPORTS OF PEOPLE IN HALLWAYS FOR TEN HOURS.

>> PEOPLE ARE GOING TO URGENT CARE WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED MEDICAL CARE AND THEY'RE SWAMPED.

THE STAFFING ISN'T THERE TO HANDLE IT AND THERE'S A LOT OF WAIT TIMES.

NOW, IT'S NOT THAT WAY EVERYWHERE.

SO COULD BE ONE PART OF TOWN IS ON A TEN-HOUR WAIT AND YOU CAN WALK INTO ANOTHER HOSPITAL, ANOTHER SIDE OF TOWN AND GET IN AND IT'S KIND OF WEIRD THAT WAY.

>> Ted: STAFFING SHORTAGES, I HEARD, IN PART TO LITERALLY AND DOCTORTONURSE AND DOCTOR BURNOUT?

>> YES.

>> Ted: IS THAT BECAUSE OF COVID?

>> THE WAIT TIMES IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, I DON'T THINK, ARE RELATED TO THE STAFFING.

I MEAN, THE HOSPITALS IN GENERAL HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING ENOUGH NURSING STAFF OVER THE LONG RUN, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT'S JUST A MISMATCH WITH SUPPLY AND DEMAND IN TERMS OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET INTO THE ED AND CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, TO GET IN THERE.

WITH I WOULDN'T SAY SHORTAGES PER SAY, BUT A MISMATCH.

YOU CAN'T STAFF UP FROM YOUR ANNUAL PEAK.

>> Ted: RIGHT.

>> STAFF UP FROM WHAT YOU CAN DO THAT'S REASONABLE AND PEOPLE ARE FLOODING IN.

THE TAKE-HOME, UNLESS YOU'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY BREATHING AND SCARED AND YOU'RE PULSEOXIMETER, GET A SENSE OF WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

IF YOU THINK MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO TO AN URGENT CARE IS A GOOD ENOUGH OPTION, THAT COULD TAKE ENOUGH OF THE PRESSURE AND YOU WON'T HAVE A LONG WAIT.

>> Ted: IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, PEOPLE WITH CHEST PAIN, PEOPLE YOU MENTION EMERGENCY AND APPENDECTOMY, THEY WERE BEING BLOCKED OUT BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE AND IS THAT HAPPENING NOW?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

ALL OF THESE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS HAVE A TRIAGE NURSE AND WHEN YOU WALK IN, YOU GO IN AND ASSESS WHAT'S GOING ON.

PEOPLE SHOW YOU AND YOU GO BACK RIGHT NOW, NO WAIT TIME.

BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CLINICAL PRESENTATION.

BUT IF YOU SHOW UP WITH A HURT ANKLE, YOU WILL BE THERE A LONG TIME.

>> Ted: INTERESTING.

BUT OVERALL, IN THE GENERAL SCHEME OF THINGS AND THE HOLIDAYS ARE APPROACHING, COULD WE FEEL REASONABLY THINGS GETTING OVER WITH QUICKLY HERE?

>> THINGS ARE BAD BUT GETTING BETTER AND STILL BAD.

RSV IS OFF THE CHARTS BAD.

I TALKED ABOUT HOW THE TREND LINE IS GOOD.

RSV IS KIND OF HIGH AND GETTING BETTER.

>> Ted: BAD SITUATION BUT GETTING BETTER.

>> RIGHT.

>> Ted: WE'LL TAKE THAT FROM YOU.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> Ted: PROPOSITION 308 WAS APPROVED WITH IN-STATE TUITION IF THEY GRADUATED FROM AN ARIZONA HIGH SCHOOL AND DREAMERS RECEIVE PROTECTION FROM DEPORTATION UNDER THE DACA PROGRAM AND MORE IN A MOMENT BUT OUR PRODUCER AND PHOTOGRAPHER INTRODUCE US TO ONE LOCAL DREAMER.

>> MARIA IS A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL.

>> WHEN I GREW WATERMELON.

>> Reporter: DESPITE GROWING UP IN ARIZONA, SHE FEELS ALIENATED FROM HER PEERED.

PEERS.

>> I FELT EXCLUDED IN MY SENIOR YEAR, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.

>> Reporter: SHE SPENDS HER TIME IN HER GARDEN.

WHEN SHE ISN'T IN HER GARDEN, SHE SPENDS TIME WITH PARENTS AND THREE SIBLINGS EXCITED ABOUT HER FUTURE COLLEGE CAREER.

>> LIKE, HI MY DAD, HE WANTED TO BE A MARINE BIOLOGIST.

>> Reporter: MARIA HAS DREAMS OF BECOMING A NEUROSCIENTIST.

>> I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK I'VE GOTTEN MY HEAD ON NEUROSCIENCE.

>> Reporter: BUT MARIA IS A DREAMER AND THAT MEANS FOR THE LONGEST TIME, SHE FACED BARRIERS TO HER HIGHER EDUCATION.

>> AT THE START, I WOULD HEAR STORIES ABOUT HOW THEY WERE STILL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHEN LIKE, THINGS CHANGED TO GO TO COLLEGE AND IT BROKE MY HEART.

>> Reporter: SHE CAME HERE FROM MEXICO WHEN SHE WAS A BABY WITH HER PARENTS.

HER SIBLINGS WERE BORN IF THE STATES AND CAN RECEIVE IN-STATE TUITION AND SHE DID NOT GET THAT LUXURY UNTIL RECENTLY.

>> SINCE THEY WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL, THEY'VE BEEN WAITING ALL THAT TIME AND IT FELT LIKE A RELIEF.

>> Reporter: PROP 308 IS A PROP TO GRANT NONCITIZENS TO OBTAIN IN-STATE TUITION AND MARIA QUALIFIES.

IN FACT, MARIA WORKED WITH ALIENTO AND WENT TO THE CAPITOL AND TALKED TO POLITICIANS AND IN ADDITION TO BEING A NEUROSCIENTIST, SHE WORKS FOR HERSELF AND OTHERS.

>> I'LL ALWAYS BE THERE AND TO USE MY VOICE TO FIGHT FOR WHATEVER IS RIGHT.

>> Ted: FOR MORE ON THE IMPACT OF PROP 308 30 308, WE WELCOME THE FOUNDER.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Ted: WHAT DOES THE PASSAGE OF PROP 308 IN GENERAL MEAN TO DREAMERS.

>> IT MEANS SO MUCH.

IT'S TRANSFORMATIONAL AND TO STAY IN THE STATE WE LOVE AND TO ACHIEVE EDUCATIONAL DREAMS.

WHEN ONE PERSON GETS EDUCATED, IT SUPPORTS COMMUNITIES.

>> Ted: WHEN DOES THIS KICK IN AND WHEN DOES PROP 308 KICK IN?

>> WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF GUIDANCE FROM THE REGIONS, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, THAT IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT STARTING THIS SPRING SEMESTER.

>> Ted: AND WE HAD YOU HERE FOR A DEBATE AND YOU WERE TAKING FRONT AND CENTER AND WERE YOU SURPRISED THAT IT PASSED?

>> I WAS RELIEVED.

[ Laughter ] >> WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AROUND CREATING AWARENESS AROUND PROP 308 AND THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS PEOPLE GOT CONFUSED AROUND HOW TUITION GETS PLACED.

I WAS RELIEVED AND WE WERE VICTORIOUS.

>> Ted: INDEED, BECAUSE IN 2006, RESTRICTIONS WERE PLACED AND THIS REPEALS THIS AND 2006 IS AWHILE AGO, BUT STILL, THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE WITH VOTERS SAYING NO AND VOTERS SAY OK. WHY DOES THAT HAPPEN?

>> THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WITH UNDERSTANDING WHO DREAMERS ARE.

PEOPLE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF CROSS-PARTY AFFILIATION AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T SEE BACK IF 2006.

I REMEMBER MYSELF CALLED INTO THE RHETORIC AND NOW PEOPLE KNOW WHO DREAMERS ARE.

>> Ted: HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE AFFECTED IN ARIZONA?

>> THERE ARE 2,000 STUDENTS WHO GRADUATE FROM ARIZONA HIGH SCHOOLS AND LOOKING AT 25,000 STUDENTS WHO CAN POTENTIAL GO BACK IF THEY HAVE GRADUATED FROM AN ARIZONA HIGH SCHOOL.

>> Ted: THERE ARE QUESTION THAT THIS HELPS AND NOT PAYING WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE PAID AND WHAT ABOUT REVENUE TO UNIVERSITIES AND HOW IS THAT AFFECTED?

I THINK THAT THE REASON THIS IS CRITICAL BECAUSE OF INVESTMENTS.

WHEN YOU SIGH SEE THE INVESTMENT AFTER THEY GRADUATE FROM A UNIVERSITY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT $25,000 PER STUDENT AND THEY'LL BE IN THAT POSITIVE, RIGHT, BUT AT THE BEGINNING, IF STUDENTS PAY DEPENDING IF THEY GO TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT, IN TERMS OF IN-STATE OR OUT OF STATE TUITION AND THAT'S TAXES THAT WE PAID INTO IT.

>> Ted: OFFSET BY AN INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT.

>> THAT'S THE GOAL WE'RE SEEING BEFORE PROP 308 AND THERE WERE MORE STUDENTS AND THERE WAS A PROFIT OUT OF THAT COMPARED TO NOW THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF STUDENTS THAT ARE ENROLLING BECAUSE THE LIMITATIONS THAT WERE ENACTED BEFORE.

>> Ted: THIS VOTE, THE PASSAGE OF PROP 308, TUITION FOR DREAMERS AND WHAT DOES THIS DO AS FAR AS THE DEBATE ON IMMIGRATION?

>> I THINK FOR ME, IT SHOWS THAT ARIZONA HAS SHIFTED AND THAT WE HAVE SEEN THE IMPACTS THAT IMMIGRANTS HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IT PUTS THE QUESTION THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT TO BE DEALING WITH IMMIGRATION AND THERE'S SO MANY COMPLEXITIES AND WE SHOULDN'T BE PASSING GOOD POLICY THAT WILL BENEFIT OR STATE JUST BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOT ACTING ON IT.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION, YOU WON.

WHAT'S NEXT?

[ Laughter ] >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

IMPLEMENTATION, POLICIES ARE AROUND ADD GOOD AS EFFECT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INCREASING OUR EDUCATION AND CONTINUING TO ADVOCATE FOR DREAMERS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL EXAMPLE WE MONITOR CLOSELY WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT OF CONGRESS RIGHT NOW.

>> Ted: SO ALIENTO SURVIVES.

>> WE WORK IN EDUCATION AND THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT STUDENTS NOT ONLY ENROLL AND COMPLETE THEIR EDUCATION CAREER.

>> Ted: CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS PASSING AND THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA WANTED IT AND THEY GOT IT AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Ted: UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A TEACHING HOSPITAL FOR A VETERINARY STUDENTS AT THE ARIZONA HUMANE SOCIETY.

VETERINARY MEDICAL STUDENTS IN ARIZONA ARE TAKING PART IN A SHELTER ROTATION AT THE ARIZONA HUMANE SOCIETY AND WE LEARN MORE FROM DR. KATHLEEN AT THE TRAUMA HOSPITAL AND ALSO JOINING US IS A STUDENT IN THE PROGRAM AND GOOD TO YOU HAVE BOTH HERE AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

KATHLEEN, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

THIS IS BASICALLY A TEACHING HOSPITAL, CORRECT, AND TALK TO US MORE ABOUT THIS.

>> WE HAVE A SHELTER WHICH HAS KIND OF GROUPED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND ALLOWED THEIR STUDENTS TO COME IN AND TAKE A PART OF OUR HOSPITAL AND THEREFORE, WE'RE TEACHING STUDENTS SOME HANDS ON SKILLS THAT THEY'VE LEARNED THROUGH THE PAST TWO AND A HALF THREE YEARS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.

OUR VETERINARY >> Ted: SANTANA, HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED AND TALK ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE.

>> WITH THE SHELTER MEDICINE, IT'S A ROTATION FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA'S CLINICAL ROTATION'S YEAR.

I WANTED TO BE INVOLVED, FIRST OF ALL, AND SO FAR, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN GREAT AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME SURGERIES AND ANESTHESIA.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSED ON?

>> NO.

AT THE ARIZONA HUMANE SOCIETY, THEY HAVE US ROTATE THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THROUGH EVERYTHING THEY OFFER.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST TWO DAYS.

>> Ted: OK. KATHLEEN, IS THIS BASICALLY LIKE WORKING IN THE ER FOR HOMELESS PETS?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

OUR SHELTER TAKINGS TAKES CARE OF INJURED, ABUSED ANIMALS, WHETHER STRAYS WHO COULD NOT CARE FOR THEM AND ALLOWS THEM TO PERFORM THINGS SUCH AS SPAY AND NEUTER AND A WHOLE WEEK IN A SPAY AND NEUTER ROTATION AND WORK IN A TRAUMA UNIT AND SEEING ALL OF THE TRAUMAS AND MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS.

WE DO DENTISTRIES, ORTHOPEEDIC AND THEY GET A LOT THROUGH THIS AS WELL AS GOING OUT INTO THE FIELD AND COMMUNITY WORK AND WE'RE OUT ON THE RESERVATIONS AND AREAS OF NEED PROVIDING MEDICAL NEED THAT ARE OWNED IN ADDITION TO GOING OUT IN THE FIELD OR GOING AND COLLECTING ANIMALS THAT ARE UNDERGOING CRUELTY INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE STRAY AND INJURED.

>> Ted: SANTANA, IT HAS TO BE EYE-OPENING AND THIS IS THE REAL WORLD, HUH?

>> IT'S BEEN VERY ILLUMINATING TO ME.

I KIND OF HAD AN IDEA, BUT UNTIL YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN THE SHELTER, IN TALKING WITH THE VETERINARIANS AND TECHNICIANS AND STAFF, THIS IS WHAT GOES ON.

>> IS THIS >> Ted: THIS IS THE FIRST OF YOUR ROTATIONS?

>> I'VE HAD TWO IN TEXAS AND IT WAS AT A RURAL HOSPITAL AND THIS WAS ANOTHER ONE, LIKE AN EQUINE SPECIALTY HOSPITAL IN DALLAS.

>> Ted: IT SOUNDS, AGAIN, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN TRADITIONAL VETERINARY CARE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RESCUES ANIMALS AND FOSTERING ANIMALS.

THAT HAS TO BE EYE-OPENING.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE ALL THE PUPPIES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THE STORY OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM AND WHERE THEY WERE FOUND AND ALSO THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY COME IN, IT TAKES YOUR BREATH AWAY THAT THIS HAPPENS.

>> Ted: DO YOU HAVE STUDENTS THAT WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY'RE EXPECTING THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER AND THEY SEE WHAT VETS DO AND THEY'RE STUDYING TO BE VETS AND YOU TAKE THEM IN THE FIELD AND FIND NEGLECTED AND ABUSED ANIMALS AND CHANGES.

>> IT DEFINITELY DOES AND OPENS THEIR EYES TO THE REALITY AND A LOT OF TIMES IN THE UNIVERSITIES AND EVERY TOWER YOU'RE LEARNING THE PERFECT MEDICINE AND YOU REALIZE THROUGH THE SHELTER WORLD, THERE'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS THAT COME THROUGH ON A YEARLY BASIS THAT DON'T IS THE MEDICAL CARE THEY NEED.

AND I THINK IT ALLOWS STUDENTS TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE REAL LIFE IS AND WHAT THE REAL WORLD IS ABOUT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE COM PARK COMPASSIONATE AND LOVING AND IT SEES THE ROUGHER SIDE AND WHEN YOU SEE CASES GO SO WELL AND HOW WELL THEY RECOVER AND PLACE THEM INTO HOMES, IT GIVES THEM MORE INSPIRATION THEY CAN CHANGE THE WORLD AND IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

>> Ted: ROUGHER EXPERIENCE IN SOME RESPECTS AND MORE REWARDING IN OTHERS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

JUST TODAY, WE HAD SPAY AND NEWTERS ON DOGS AND CATS AND THEY WERE ADOPTED AND THEY NEEDED TO GET THEIR ALTERATION AND VACCINES UP TO DATE AND IT'S AMAZING.

OH, YOU HAD THEM HOME AND THAT'S AWESOME.

>> Ted: BEFORE YOU STARTED, WERE YOU LOOKING IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS AND NOW YOU'VE MOVED IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS OR DOES THIS SOLIDIFY THIS?

>> IT SOLIDIFIES WHAT I PLAN ON DOING AND WORK IN THE RURAL AREAS OF NORTHERN ARIZONA AND I THINK THE SHELTER MEDICINE IS RURAL.

YOU HAVE TO BE RESOURCEFUL AND YOU'LL HAVE CONDITIONS WHERE YOU HAVE PETS THAT COME IN THAT HAVEN'T SEEN A PET IN QUITE A WHILE DUE TO GEOGRAPHICAL REGION DIFFICULTIES.

THE PLUS SIDE, I THINK, MAKES WE WANT TO GO TO NORTHERN ARIZONA MORE.

>> Ted: YOU PROBABLY HEAR THAT A LOT FROM STUDENTS?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE KNOW THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN SHELTER MEDICINE AND MAYBE 5% AND A LOT GOING INTO LARGE ANIMAL OR PRIVATE PRACTICE, BUT THEY'RE LEARNING THE SKILLS TO GO INTO THOSE AREAS.

EVERYTHING AT THE SHELTER APPLIES TO THEIR PRIVATE PRACTICE GP KIND OF SCENARIOS, AS WELL, AND LOVE THAT ADDITIONAL EXPERIENCE BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE REAL WORLD.

>> Ted: THAT HAS TO HELP, STANDARD VETERINARIAN PRACTICE.

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS FAR AS ANIMALS NEGLECTED AND ABUSED, ABANDONED AND THESE SORT OF THINGS?

ARE THINGS GETTING BETTER OUT THERE?

>> IT'S HARD TO SAY.

THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS WE'RE SEEING FROM THE TIME THAT I STARTED, WHICH WAS BACK IN 1995, FEWER ANIMALS WITH SEVERE INJURIES AND WE SET OURSELVES UP TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE TAKING IN THE MOST SEVERELY INJURED AND WE'RE PUTTING HOURS UPON HOURS INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL ANIMAL.

>> Ted: GREAT WORK AND CONGRATULATIONS AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOU, SAVANNAH.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Ted: AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.